hello all,
PM here again to report the grievous misdirection of a certain question. Commonly posed to newly outed vegans, this question has been asked in many ways, "how do you survive?" "You must be really brave" "how do you live without X?" and many, many more. so i feel that its time the real people this question needs to be addressed to answered it.
ANY OMNIVORES PRESENT ?!?!?!?
Veganism is a lifestyle centered on doing as little harm as possible. Many vegans respect the buddist concept of ahisma, which is essentially living in just such a way that you do the least harm and the most good. even those who don't identify with that will agree that on some level veganism is love, and or respect for life.
carnism/ omnivorism/ non-veganism uses and participates in death and torture for the sake of taste. it involves ruthlessly discarding lives and making sentient beings into objects, just as slavery did to the Africans, just like Hitler did to Jews, just like rapists do to victims. It enforces the false belief that might makes right and encourages violence. someone smarter than me ( like that narrows it down) once said that as long as there are slaughterhouses there will be battlefields. think about it.
Knowing all this, is there any doubt why this message is being returned?
The question is not "how can we care?" the question is "how can you not?"
The question is not "how can we live? the question is "how can you live with yourself?"
We are not "brave" we are humans treating other sentient beings humanely.
rant completed and thanks for your time,
yours upon request,
PM
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29 October, 2007
01 October, 2007
How Do I Stay Motivated?
Posted by
Plant_murderer
Hi, I'm Plant_murderer, a seventeen year old newbie (6 months and counting) and trust me when I say that I know a thing or eighty about people who straight up couldn't care less about factory farming, animals, veganism, or anything else more important than the next episode of your average "reality" t.v show. When surrounded by these people, it is almost a given that the all-consuming homesickness for our home planet, ( Vega), can leave a person ready and almost willing to return to old ways (omnivore-ism or vegetarianism). In this post I will attempt to show some of the miriad of ways that i've found to talk myself out of turning back on the road that is veganism ( and by extention turning traitor on the the animals and the defendors of their rights).
1. Remind yourself why!!! Those who forget are doomed to...get all meek and lame and "cheat". look at slaughter house videos, read some animal rights novels, whatever you do, if you catch yourself forgeting why, a good reminder is always a good motivator.
2. Get active or take a break!!!! if your not active and need motivation, get out and do something, you've made it, you're "tampering in dark-sided stuff" (its an inside joke if you didnt catch the reference) going out and spreading the information can make you feel alive and useful. if you've been burning at both ends of the soy candle and are tired, take a break and then show 'em how its done once the spring hits your step again.
3. Find and maintain a support network!! make friends with other vegans and meet online or in person to hang out and complain about omnis, veggies and ex veg*ns. It'll give you a chance to vent and a place you can go to ask things like "is ____ vegan?" and a couple of new friends, too.
4. REWARD YOURSELF!!!! every year take at least one day to celebrate the beauty and wonder that is veganism. why? ...do you neen a reason to celebrate?!? in case you didnt know VEGANISM RULES!!!! and celebrating anually will give you a reason to stay vegan ( if you convert back, you dont get to party)
It is not within our powers to make other people care, but no one can stop you from being the one person who always will. Make veganism a part of who you are and not something that you do, and the motivation is never further away than your next breath or thought.
thats my advice,
PM
1. Remind yourself why!!! Those who forget are doomed to...get all meek and lame and "cheat". look at slaughter house videos, read some animal rights novels, whatever you do, if you catch yourself forgeting why, a good reminder is always a good motivator.
2. Get active or take a break!!!! if your not active and need motivation, get out and do something, you've made it, you're "tampering in dark-sided stuff" (its an inside joke if you didnt catch the reference) going out and spreading the information can make you feel alive and useful. if you've been burning at both ends of the soy candle and are tired, take a break and then show 'em how its done once the spring hits your step again.
3. Find and maintain a support network!! make friends with other vegans and meet online or in person to hang out and complain about omnis, veggies and ex veg*ns. It'll give you a chance to vent and a place you can go to ask things like "is ____ vegan?" and a couple of new friends, too.
4. REWARD YOURSELF!!!! every year take at least one day to celebrate the beauty and wonder that is veganism. why? ...do you neen a reason to celebrate?!? in case you didnt know VEGANISM RULES!!!! and celebrating anually will give you a reason to stay vegan ( if you convert back, you dont get to party)
It is not within our powers to make other people care, but no one can stop you from being the one person who always will. Make veganism a part of who you are and not something that you do, and the motivation is never further away than your next breath or thought.
thats my advice,
PM
20 September, 2007
But it's so hard!
Posted by
Reverence Lily
This is actually what I hear from a lot of people; they'd go vegan but it's so hard! And I, myself, went around for a while telling people, "I am the only vegan you will ever meet who says that veganism is easy." (Sigh. This was before I met any other vegans, though.) These days, I just say, "Nah man, veganism is ridiculously easy. Just ask any vegan!"
And it's true! The hard part is in the first two or three days, when you still have your omnivorous habits, and it gets to dinnertime and suddenly you're looking at the stove wishing you could have mac'n'pus or a slab of a cow's/pig's/chicken's/fish's body. That, as far as the materials goes, is really the only thing that's hard about veganism: it's the But what am I supposed to eat?! mentality.
I understand that. The emotional comfort of eating animal products is what really drives us to do it - and addiction is included in that - 'cause really, let's face it: plain meat and cheese tastes like dirt. (I'm talking no salt either, you know, the way true carnivores and omnivores like it.) The thing is, we associate animal products with family situations; for me, everything was easy - but once I got this twinge the time I went to Germany for wurst. It was completely bewildering - but I realised it wasn't because I was a bad vegan: it was because I was feeling lonely and isolated, and because my dad and Oma (German for "grandmother") had me grow up with that, I associated that with love, family, being included. (This was easily cured by remembering that there was someone killed to make the wurst, not a something.) And if any of you reading don't have some of the same feelings (love, family, friends, togetherness, comfort) about one animal product or another - barring those of you who were raised vegan - I'll eat my hat.
The thing is though, that was momentary, and other than that I have had not a thought, twinge, or pang of wistfulness towards animal products. I mean, come on - I have more than enough yummy vegan foods to snack on, even without plant milks, nice creams, fake meats, etc. (all of which I rarely if ever eat anymore). And more than that, I have an ethical backbone - I can't, I won't, I refuse to eat any animal product simply because that would be a. hurting animals and b. reinforcing, even if only to myself, that animals do not deserve to have their right to their bodies respected (which they do!).
And you want to know the truly hard part? It's dealing with all the people who know nothing about veganism and who don't want to know. They're the ones that really piss me off - they're the ones telling me, through both word and action, that they simply can't be bothered. And when you're part of the oppressing group, I think it's your duty to learn about your privilege, and then - this is key - to actively fight against it. You are obligated. It wasn't their fault they got born into the right body - and you're the one with the power: they can't force you to not engage in your privilege, the privilege which hurts them economically, emotionally, mentally, sexually, physically, whatever - so you have to make the conscious choice to not do that.
So what you're really saying when you say, "But it's so hard!" is a few things:
1. You want to remain safe in your idea that veganism is impossible so you can continue your physical/psychological addictions with animal products,
2. You want to believe that you are doing as much as you possibly can so you don't have to incriminate yourself for not doing more, and
3. You don't want to really, truly care about animals so much that you'll be forced by your own conscience to make "sacrifices" for them.
But the thing is, the first ("it's impossible") isn't true, the second is inevitable (you must, at one point, realise that you're doing something, yes, wrong), and the third ("sacrifices") is empowering and not at all deprivation.
So why not take the jump? I mean it. Why not? Simply saying "we're all at a different point on the path" doesn't work if you know about what goes on and you choose to ignore that so you can continue your physical/psychological addictions to animal products - frankly, though you must keep in mind that I am a very, erm, bold person, I'd say that doing something you know is wrong does indeed make you a bad person. And I mean, you want to be a good person, right? At least, I hope so (if not, I can safely assume that you're in your teens).
Here's another thing to think about: while I don't advocate selflessness by any means, I do think that there comes a point where we integrate thinking about the needs and wants of others into our hourly, daily, weekly, etc. plans - and that is when we become an adult. We become adults when we abandon egocentrism - the focus on the self to the exclusion or near-exclusion of all others - and instead retreat into a happy mixture of taking care of ourselves and considering (and, yes, changing our plans to respect) the preferences of others. "Others" includes animals, since they definitely have preferences - at the bare minimum, the wish to avoid pain, suffering and death, and usually the want for, if not friendship, then companionship.
So it comes down to: are you ready to be an adult? Because veganism is the result of looking at our relationship with animals and realising that we need to respect their wishes, even if it causes minor inconveniences to us.
I'm not fully an adult yet, but hell, I'm on my way.
And it's true! The hard part is in the first two or three days, when you still have your omnivorous habits, and it gets to dinnertime and suddenly you're looking at the stove wishing you could have mac'n'pus or a slab of a cow's/pig's/chicken's/fish's body. That, as far as the materials goes, is really the only thing that's hard about veganism: it's the But what am I supposed to eat?! mentality.
I understand that. The emotional comfort of eating animal products is what really drives us to do it - and addiction is included in that - 'cause really, let's face it: plain meat and cheese tastes like dirt. (I'm talking no salt either, you know, the way true carnivores and omnivores like it.) The thing is, we associate animal products with family situations; for me, everything was easy - but once I got this twinge the time I went to Germany for wurst. It was completely bewildering - but I realised it wasn't because I was a bad vegan: it was because I was feeling lonely and isolated, and because my dad and Oma (German for "grandmother") had me grow up with that, I associated that with love, family, being included. (This was easily cured by remembering that there was someone killed to make the wurst, not a something.) And if any of you reading don't have some of the same feelings (love, family, friends, togetherness, comfort) about one animal product or another - barring those of you who were raised vegan - I'll eat my hat.
The thing is though, that was momentary, and other than that I have had not a thought, twinge, or pang of wistfulness towards animal products. I mean, come on - I have more than enough yummy vegan foods to snack on, even without plant milks, nice creams, fake meats, etc. (all of which I rarely if ever eat anymore). And more than that, I have an ethical backbone - I can't, I won't, I refuse to eat any animal product simply because that would be a. hurting animals and b. reinforcing, even if only to myself, that animals do not deserve to have their right to their bodies respected (which they do!).
And you want to know the truly hard part? It's dealing with all the people who know nothing about veganism and who don't want to know. They're the ones that really piss me off - they're the ones telling me, through both word and action, that they simply can't be bothered. And when you're part of the oppressing group, I think it's your duty to learn about your privilege, and then - this is key - to actively fight against it. You are obligated. It wasn't their fault they got born into the right body - and you're the one with the power: they can't force you to not engage in your privilege, the privilege which hurts them economically, emotionally, mentally, sexually, physically, whatever - so you have to make the conscious choice to not do that.
So what you're really saying when you say, "But it's so hard!" is a few things:
1. You want to remain safe in your idea that veganism is impossible so you can continue your physical/psychological addictions with animal products,
2. You want to believe that you are doing as much as you possibly can so you don't have to incriminate yourself for not doing more, and
3. You don't want to really, truly care about animals so much that you'll be forced by your own conscience to make "sacrifices" for them.
But the thing is, the first ("it's impossible") isn't true, the second is inevitable (you must, at one point, realise that you're doing something, yes, wrong), and the third ("sacrifices") is empowering and not at all deprivation.
So why not take the jump? I mean it. Why not? Simply saying "we're all at a different point on the path" doesn't work if you know about what goes on and you choose to ignore that so you can continue your physical/psychological addictions to animal products - frankly, though you must keep in mind that I am a very, erm, bold person, I'd say that doing something you know is wrong does indeed make you a bad person. And I mean, you want to be a good person, right? At least, I hope so (if not, I can safely assume that you're in your teens).
Here's another thing to think about: while I don't advocate selflessness by any means, I do think that there comes a point where we integrate thinking about the needs and wants of others into our hourly, daily, weekly, etc. plans - and that is when we become an adult. We become adults when we abandon egocentrism - the focus on the self to the exclusion or near-exclusion of all others - and instead retreat into a happy mixture of taking care of ourselves and considering (and, yes, changing our plans to respect) the preferences of others. "Others" includes animals, since they definitely have preferences - at the bare minimum, the wish to avoid pain, suffering and death, and usually the want for, if not friendship, then companionship.
So it comes down to: are you ready to be an adult? Because veganism is the result of looking at our relationship with animals and realising that we need to respect their wishes, even if it causes minor inconveniences to us.
I'm not fully an adult yet, but hell, I'm on my way.
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