tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post9177719998379200662..comments2024-01-15T22:40:22.067-05:00Comments on Vegan FAQs: The Environmental Problem With HoneyDinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12012498879329379828noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post-36306511549429660542018-07-11T12:20:44.082-04:002018-07-11T12:20:44.082-04:00There are some bee keepers that operate unethicall...There are some bee keepers that operate unethically, but there are many who keep bees in ethical ways, and care very much for them. I have no idea where you got the information that the bees are killed over-winter. I'm a beekeeper, and I can tell you that the last thing a beekeeper wants is to lose a hive. I have 3 hives, and I am learning how to work with the bees to ensure their health and their survival. A hive produces a huge surplus of honey, because bees need to produce. A good beekeeper never takes off more honey than the excess, and always leaves plenty (60 lbs) of honey within the hive for the bees to consume over the winter. What you have spoken of and have portrayed as the norm, is actually the worst of beekeeping. I agree, that kind of mismanagement needs to stop. The bulk of beekeepers do not operate that way, for the sake of the bees, and for their businesses. It's okay if you don't think we have the right to take any honey off of the hive; we can agree to disagree. I believe that as long as there is respect and a learning-attitude when it comes to beekeeping, it is a worthy pursuit. I also have planted plenty of wildflowers in my 3 acres, and am sowing white clover into the grass so that wild pollinators have plenty of sources of food.Andrea Torrey Balsarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08354446074199066167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post-29071216336110365062016-12-16T08:31:42.366-05:002016-12-16T08:31:42.366-05:00Okay #1 there is no "ethical" way to str...Okay #1 there is no "ethical" way to strip an animal of its rights any time you take what they produce for themselves it's unethical and wrong and #2 how can you say you care about the world when you support a business that is furthering the declining bee numbers WHEN THEY GO SO DO WE ☠Hopenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post-90498008271943981042013-05-06T13:37:26.142-04:002013-05-06T13:37:26.142-04:00How about a "fair trade" arrangement wit...How about a "fair trade" arrangement with the hive? Providing a hive 20 acres of land overgrown with local wild perennial and seasonal flowers to supply them with nectar in exchange for a gallon/yr of honey. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post-31459420943388428252013-03-21T20:22:53.510-04:002013-03-21T20:22:53.510-04:00not all honey is bad, some farmers keep bees as na...not all honey is bad, some farmers keep bees as natural pollinators, which is good for the environment. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post-11694263274854266162013-03-21T20:19:33.302-04:002013-03-21T20:19:33.302-04:00agave is not any better for the environment than h...agave is not any better for the environment than honey, you all seem confused on this point. the problem being that agave is grown in warm weather and tropical areas, meaning for the vast majority of us it is not sourced locally, meaning more green hour gases. if you're going vegan for envrionmental reasons i applaud you, but please do you research and don't just assume that vegan foods are good for the environment. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post-18632968754210586002012-05-13T15:12:20.567-04:002012-05-13T15:12:20.567-04:00YES. Thank you, i was hoping someone would have a ...YES. Thank you, i was hoping someone would have a honey-flavored alternative :). Vegan honey mustard for my Chik'n...Erinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07554363447923014428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post-38498826205761663202012-03-20T06:39:37.614-04:002012-03-20T06:39:37.614-04:00I thought it was about time I read up on this as I...I thought it was about time I read up on this as I am pretty much a vegan now...<br /><br />I generally avoid sugar (though it is practically impossible to do this completely, well, if you drink alcohol anyway), not because of the whole 'it contains bone char' thing but simply because it's so incredibly inefficient and destructive, not to mention snakes are burnt to death when they farm it...<br /><br />So I figured on the odd occasion I would use a good quality organic honey instead as a substitute (an organic African 'forest honey' I am very fond of), A honey bees to fertilize various plants and crops, and, I thought, as long as it comes from a (supposedly) well-kept hive then what's the problem?<br /><br />But I guess it is still exploitation, and any problems with a decline in honey bee population and organization is down to us, not them...and finding out that they are just fed sugar as a substitute anyway does not really make it such an eco-friendly alternative...I have heard about 'date sugar' - not sure how easy this is to get hold of, but makes sense to go for natural plant/fruit sugars on the odd occasion I need to sweeten something I guess...<br /><br />Here is the site for the organic forest honey though, which I will still eat, as it is from non-sugar fed wild bees that are well kept, and they leave honey for the bees, so seems like the ideal situation of man working with and respecting nature rather than just exploiting and taking:<br /><br />http://tropicalforest.com/Tropical_Forest/Tropical_Forest_home.htmlSean Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02041762516232842074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post-889137157804284342008-03-17T07:32:00.000-04:002008-03-17T07:32:00.000-04:00It's my birthday! I just got a HUGE jug of rice ho...It's my birthday! I just got a HUGE jug of rice honey as a gift from my partner. It's called "Just like honey rice syrup" by Suzanne's Specialties and he got it shipped in. It's very convincing, it really does taste just like honey. Yay for me! I used to be a honey eating vegan beause I didn't know anything about it until my new partner taught me about the hive burning and the queen raping, etc, etc. I used honey every day. I haven't done so for years now. But now I can use fake honey and also offer it to our omnivore guests when they have tea. Good opportunity to explain why honey is so cruel to bees. DGDesert Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10266380199584543200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post-45213565097140022662008-03-02T20:14:00.000-05:002008-03-02T20:14:00.000-05:00Like Gio said - why would you want honey when ther...Like Gio said - why would you want honey when there's maple syrup?Bonniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02321527006417038111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post-32084559133326880322008-03-01T08:00:00.000-05:002008-03-01T08:00:00.000-05:00I heart agave :)I heart agave :)Elaine Vigneaulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02678177594055407926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post-58497585529056761542008-02-28T23:31:00.000-05:002008-02-28T23:31:00.000-05:00Don't forget raw agave syrup. =]Don't forget raw agave syrup. =]Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09193784218409309728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4225918268806787791.post-5492883581096570692008-02-27T17:10:00.000-05:002008-02-27T17:10:00.000-05:00Couldn't agree more. Who knows why we humans have ...Couldn't agree more. Who knows why we humans have this strong tendency to take things for granted and even make them ours. Besides, with so many fantastic alternatives to honey, like malt-extract and maple syrup, who needs honey?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com